#805: Philip Goff — Exploring Consciousness and Non-Ordinary Religion, Galileo's Error, Panpsychism, Heretical Ideas, and Therapeutic Belief

Rich Barton is the co-founder and co-executive chairman of Zillow, a company transforming how people buy, sell, rent, and finance homes. Before Zillow, Rich founded Expedia within Microsoft in 1994 and successfully spun the company off as a public company in 1999. He served as president, CEO, and board director of Expedia and later co-founded and served as non-executive chairman of Glassdoor. Sponsors: Ramp easy-to-use corporate cards, bill payments, accounting, and more: https://ramp.com/tim (Get $250 when you join Ramp) Cresset prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs: https://cressetcapital.com/tim (book a call today) Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period) Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start. [00:05:30] Eddy Cue magic. [00:06:14] Rich’s morning routine and workout philosophy. [00:13:38] How Brad Chase at Microsoft taught Rich to swing big. [00:15:46] The failed DOS for Dummies book bundle project. [00:18:52] Steering a company toward a culture of innovation. [00:20:26] Rich’s journey from management consulting to Microsoft. [00:24:34] How Expedia came to be. [00:32:32] Pitching and recruiting team talent. [00:37:18] Degree design at Stanford. [00:39:45] Realizing the value of real work as a youth. [00:41:44] A fascination with Italy. [00:43:01] Selling Expedia to Barry Diller/IAC. [00:43:51] Dara Khosrowshahi’s role in Expedia’s acquisition. [00:45:23] From a post-Expedia sale sabbatical in Italy to the birth of Zillow with Lloyd Frink. [00:55:41] “Big pond, good fishermen” as business criteria. [00:56:50] Early Zillow mistakes. [01:00:05] The Zestimate: Zillow’s killer feature. [01:01:29] Making lemonade from the lemons of Zillow’s launch day server crash. [01:03:49] Rich’s provocation marketing playbook. [01:05:30] Regulatory battles and resistance to industry disruption. [01:10:44] Founding Glassdoor and its “give to get” data collection model. [01:12:58] Avvo and rating attorneys — legal challenges as marketing. [01:16:11] Digital marketplaces and Google disintermediation concerns. [01:19:52] How Rich names companies to be memorable. [01:25:28] Why Rich recommends leaving fear out of the provocation marketing equation. [01:26:48] Working with Benchmark Capital. [01:30:37] What serving on a board looks like and Rich’s membership criteria: “Is it local? Is it fun? Is it lucrative?” [01:39:00] Rich’s motivation and regimen for staying healthy in his 50s. [01:47:13] Cultivating leadership through absence — the two-week disconnected trip. [01:49:34] Building a good company by keeping good company. [01:51:42] Developing the skill to fire people as a win/win proposition. [01:54:41] Rich’s family tattoo design and symbolism. [01:57:29] Advice for balancing family and professional life. [02:01:08] The benefits of distributed workforces post-pandemic. [02:03:23] Recommended reading. [02:12:17] Rich’s billboard. [02:14:25] The importance of sabbaticals and disconnecting from digital devices. [02:17:41] Taking up Procreate digital art during COVID. [02:19:05] Parting thoughts. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books. Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss  Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, Margaret Atwood, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Dr. Gabor Maté, Anne Lamott, Sarah Silverman, Dr. Andrew Huberman, and many more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Rodriguez is a film director, screenwriter, producer, cinematographer, editor, and composer. Rodriguez has written, produced, directed, and edited a series of successful films including El Mariachi, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn, the Spy Kids franchise, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Frank Miller’s Sin City, and many more. Robert recently launched Brass Knuckle Films, an investable action film slate. This episode is brought to you by: Cresset prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs: https://cressetcapital.com/tim (book a call today) AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim (1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase.) Wealthfront high-yield cash account: https://Wealthfront.com/Tim (Start earning 4.00% Annual Percentage Yield (APY) on your short-term cash until you’re ready to invest. And when new clients open an account today, you can get an extra fifty-dollar bonus with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more.)  Terms & Conditions apply. APY as of 12/27/24 and is subject to change. Tim Ferriss receives cash compensation from Wealthfront Brokerage, LLC for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of Wealthfront Brokerage. See full disclosures here. * Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start. [00:08:19] Recounting what’s happened in the 10 years since Robert’s last appearance on the show. [00:11:23] The freedom of limitations. [00:14:08] Fruit-bearing “failures.” [00:16:09] How Robert stumbled onto his own brand of counterintuitive parenting. [00:18:42] How fan investing for Brass Knuckle Films works. [00:23:59] How to effectively pitch a movie idea. [00:26:55] The time to start your art is now. Aim high. [00:33:00] The value of learning by doing. [00:43:31] The power of labels to elevate or diminish our ambitions. [00:47:51] Why lack of access is a myth. [00:49:08] No human doubts — when not knowing is half the battle. [00:54:25] Fear forward past the confines of the comfort zone. [00:59:02] Interactions with the enigmatic Rick Rubin. [01:01:53] Harnessing the creative spirit: action first, inspiration second. [01:07:00] Living is reliving: why Robert wants you to start journaling. [01:15:38] “Don’t just parent. Partner.” [01:22:47] In defense of what some call nepotism. [01:28:27] Why the double R naming scheme in the Rodriguez household? [01:30:04] Tribe talk. [01:33:38] Robert’s favorite exercise-related life hack: the rock walk. [01:36:15] Parting thoughts. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books. Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss  Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Craig Mod Returns! Craig is a writer, photographer, and walker living in Tokyo and Kamakura, Japan. He is the author of Things Become Other Things and Kissa by Kissa. He also writes the newsletters Roden and Ridgeline and has contributed to The New York Times, The Atlantic, Wired, and more. Sponsors: Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period) Momentous high-quality supplements: https://livemomentous.com/tim (code TIM for 20% off) Helix Sleep premium mattresses: https://HelixSleep.com/Tim (Between 20% and 27% off all mattress orders and two free pillows) Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start. [00:07:25] More than a decade of Perfect Days in a six-tatami mat room. [00:10:44] The first steps of Craig’s huge walks: exploring Tokyo’s nightlife. [00:17:33] Discovering pilgrimage trails with John McBride. [00:22:49] What’s so appealing about pilgrimage trails? [00:31:25] Learning politeness and language in Japan. [00:40:09] An invitation from Kevin Kelly. [00:41:23] The birth of a photo book. [00:42:50] The big solo walks begin. [00:43:53] Launching a membership program. [00:44:58] The Nakasendō experience. [00:50:01] Craig’s rules for walking. [00:51:04] The Vipassana influence. [01:00:43] Logistics of walking in Japan. [01:09:03] Depopulation and pizza toast. [01:13:42] How Kissa by Kissa came to be (and its unexpected success). [01:16:34] Kicking off Craigstarter. [01:17:47] The pièce de résistance membership strategy. [01:18:41] Finding product-market fit. [01:19:12] The importance of sustainable scale. [01:19:50] Membership community rules. [01:27:15] Navigating the publishing world. [01:38:37] Promoting midsize cities in Japan as a wild and strange celebrity. [01:52:50] The economic and cultural effects of this promotion. [01:54:46] Hidden gems and walks in Japan. [01:56:56] Walking beyond Japan. [01:59:47] Craig was a Mod before you was a mod. [02:00:47] How Craig reconnected with his birth family. [02:19:32] Reflections and future plans. [02:23:00] Parting thoughts. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Craig Mod is a writer, photographer, and walker living in Tokyo and Kamakura, Japan. He is the author of Things Become Other Things and Kissa by Kissa. He also writes the newsletters Roden and Ridgeline and has contributed to The New York Times, The Atlantic, Wired, and more. Sponsors: David Protein Bars 28g of protein, 150 calories, and 0g of sugar: https://davidprotein.com/tim (Buy 4 cartons, get the 5th free.) AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim (1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase.) Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://eightsleep.com/tim (save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra) Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start. [00:06:49] What would make this a worthwhile conversation? [00:09:14] How Craig and I first met. [00:11:06] Growing up in a post-industrial Connecticut town. [00:13:10] The kindness of a tech-savvy stranger. [00:14:02] IRC, ANSI art scene, and making connections in the Internet’s early days. [00:15:48] From adoption to exploring hometown escape options. [00:18:28] Driving cross-country to a Silicon Valley internship. [00:20:05] Pursuing the desire to live abroad. [00:22:14] Attending Waseda University in Japan at age 19. [00:23:34] Seduced by the Ivy League: A momentary return to the States for a UPenn education. [00:24:52] Craig’s advice for adults who want to pick up the Japanese language. [00:29:04] Bizarre homestay experiences. [00:41:04] How Craig wound up back in Japan to work in publishing. [00:42:55] Developing design sensibilities at UPenn with Sharka Hyland and Joshua Mosley. [00:47:30] Craig’s color blindness and its influence on his design aesthetic. [00:49:54] Without a time machine, Craig lives vicariously through his daughter’s opportunities. [00:51:36] Struggling with spirits of sauce and the supernatural . [00:56:02] A Tibetan dream reader and lost love. [00:59:53] Craig’s journey to self-worth: Running, charging more for work, and building confidence. [01:01:51] The transformative experience of climbing to Annapurna Base Camp in Nepal. [01:04:40] Writing a camera review that went viral and paid rent for two years. [01:10:33] The article that changed Craig’s life. [01:16:39] The enduring power of physical books in the digital age. [01:21:06] How being adopted prepared Craig for life as an outsider no matter where he hangs his hat. [01:25:25] Craig’s time at Flipboard. [01:29:24] Writing in hotel rooms on weekends. [01:30:14] Meeting Kevin Kelly and landing a MacDowell writing residency. [01:32:51] Bridges burned and discoveries made at MacDowell. [01:40:16] Justifying a round two. [01:41:17] Craig’s advice for aspiring creatives. [01:45:12] Books Craig has reread multiple times. [01:49:43] The story behind Craig’s new book, Things Become Other Things. [02:01:47] Craig’s Special Projects membership program. [02:04:08] In praise of unexpected corners. [02:06:25] Lessons learned from the Sally Mann documentary. [02:07:34] Parting thoughts and a preview of round two (coming later this week). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a special inbetweenisode, which serves as a recap of the episodes from last month. It features a short clip from each conversation in one place so you can easily jump around to get a feel for the episode and guest. Based on your feedback, this format has been tweaked and improved since the first recap episode. For instance, listeners suggested that the bios for each guest can slow the momentum, so we moved all the bios to the end.  See it as a teaser. Something to whet your appetite. If you like what you hear, you can of course find the full episodes at tim.blog/podcast.  Please enjoy!  This episode is brought to you by 5-Bullet Friday, my very own email newsletter. Timestamps: Brandon Sanderson: 03:24 Seth Godin: 12:08 L.A. Paul: 21:08 Dr. Keith Baar: 31:53 Full episode titles: #794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems #792: Seth Godin on Playing the Right Game and Strategy as a Superpower #796: L.A. Paul — On Becoming a Vampire, Whether or Not to Have Kids, Getting Incredible Mentorship for $250, Transformative Experiences, and More #797: Dr. Keith Baar, UC Davis — Simple Exercises That Can Repair Tendons (Tennis Elbow, etc.), Collagen Fact vs. Fiction, Isometrics vs. Eccentrics, JAK Inhibitors, Growth Hormone vs. IGF-1, The Anti-RICE Protocol, and How to Use Load as an Anti-Inflammatory See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.