'Psycho Killer' | Interview with a Killer Podcast

After Richard Allen is found guilty, Vinnie Politan analyzes newly released evidence from the trial, including interrogation videos and crime scene drawings.

From the courtroom tension to the unraveling of Lori Daybell's inner circle, this episode of On the Record with Cody Thomas dives into what the first week revealed about the tangled timeline—and Lori's possible motive.

Lori Daybell, who was convicted of killing her two children and her husband’s previous wife in 2023, stands trial once again. This time, she’s representing herself as she faces charges of conspiring to kill her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. On 4/9/2025, Nancy Jo Hancock, reportedly one of the last people to see Charles alive, took the stand for the state of Arizona detailing her final encounter with him the night before he was shot. This episode takes you inside the courtroom for her full testimony, including a fiery exchange during cross-examination conducted by the defendant herself.

Julie Grant looks at some of the fiery back-and-forths Lori Daybell had with witnesses in the first week of her Arizona trial. Plus, a member of the Menendez family was hospitalized after a graphic photo was shown at a hearing.

Ahead of opening statements in the retrial for Karen Read, Vinnie Politan discusses the case and potential defense strategies.